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| 2 | +title: "HSF Coordination Meeting #295, 9 October 2025" |
| 3 | +layout: plain_toc |
| 4 | +--- |
| 5 | + |
| 6 | +## Attending |
| 7 | + |
| 8 | +Present/Contributing: Eduardo Rodrigues, Tommaso Lari, Ianna Osborne, Graeme Stewart, Claire Antel, Inês Ochoa, Maarten van Veghel, Liz Sexon-Kennedy, Luke Kreczko |
| 9 | + |
| 10 | +Apologies/Contributing: Michel Villanueva |
| 11 | + |
| 12 | +## News, general matters, announcements |
| 13 | + |
| 14 | +### HSF Seminar Series and Compute Accelerator Forum |
| 15 | + |
| 16 | +Planned HSF seminars: |
| 17 | +- 29th Oct: _European Strategy Report: Inputs, Impressions, Venice Open Symposium Highlights_ |
| 18 | +- Dec 3rd: _HS3_, TBC |
| 19 | + |
| 20 | +Others in the works: |
| 21 | +- Seminar on OpenData organised by Trig & Reco SW AA |
| 22 | +- 2nd in series on AI-assisted SW tools organised by software tools & packaging |
| 23 | +- Seminar from creator of mp-units (supports units and constants in C++, see AOB) - still to be arranged |
| 24 | + |
| 25 | +(Thanks to the activity groups for coming to us with seminar ideas and speakers!) |
| 26 | + |
| 27 | +HSF seminar conveners are reachable at <mailto:hsf-seminar-conveners@googlegroups.com>. |
| 28 | + |
| 29 | +Compute & Accelerator forums: |
| 30 | +- We had a meeting on [Error estimation for floating point operations via automatic differentiation](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1472686/) just yesterday |
| 31 | +- 12 Nov: [A Formal but Pragmatic Foundation for General-Purpose Operating Systems](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1472688/) |
| 32 | + |
| 33 | +Please send your suggestions for next seminars. |
| 34 | + |
| 35 | +### Steering Group |
| 36 | + |
| 37 | +The first meeting post Summer took place last week. See [the minutes](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/organization/2025/10/02/steering.html). |
| 38 | + |
| 39 | +We discussed in particular: |
| 40 | +- The HSF budget we collect from our participation in the GSoC programme. This can be used for HSF related activities. |
| 41 | +- Idea to create a community repository for bibliographic citations. In the works. It will soon be advertised. |
| 42 | +- Status of the affiliation programme. See item below for details. |
| 43 | + |
| 44 | +### HSF Affiliated Projects and Software |
| 45 | + |
| 46 | +Several projects have been contacted after the Summer and evaluations are either in discussion or will happen soon. |
| 47 | + |
| 48 | +Check out [here](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/projects/projects.html) for the list of affiliated projects. |
| 49 | + |
| 50 | +## Activities Updates |
| 51 | + |
| 52 | +### Software Training |
| 53 | + |
| 54 | +Oct. 6: a Hackathon on the SSH shell course material tool place. |
| 55 | + |
| 56 | +#### Ideas for upcoming trainings: |
| 57 | +- Organize the basic training twice a year: once online and once in-person, charging a small fee. The one in-person could be scheduled alongside other in-person events (for instance, summer schools) |
| 58 | + - Move to intermediate and advanced trainings, and keeping the basic material available in the Training Center for self-study |
| 59 | + |
| 60 | +#### Future Events: |
| 61 | +- [13th HEP C++ Course and hands-on training - Advanced C++](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1549051/overview), 27-31 Oct, registration open, places for in person attendance available |
| 62 | +- Blueprint Meeting on AI - TBD |
| 63 | + - Survey to collect comments, and then organize a dedicated session with different collaborations to define a roadmap |
| 64 | + |
| 65 | +### Event generators |
| 66 | + |
| 67 | +- A 2-day workshop from the LHC Monte Carlo WG is taking place as we speak, Oct. 8-9: <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1553687/timetable/>. |
| 68 | + - The HSF was invited to present on "HSF: Vision and Role in MC Toolchain Sustainability" at the session "Sustainability of the MC toolchain". Sapta presented for us. |
| 69 | + |
| 70 | +### Detector Simulation |
| 71 | + |
| 72 | +The next G4 Technical forum will be held on Oct. 23. |
| 73 | + |
| 74 | +### Reconstruction and Software Triggers |
| 75 | +- Ongoing work to organize an HSF seminar on open data sets for AI/ML training purposes. We have one on LHC Open data and one on foundation models for NPP dataset. No confirmation yet from one on foundation models (from CMS colleagues); maybe alternatively one related to ML-based tracking. |
| 76 | + |
| 77 | +### PyHEP |
| 78 | + |
| 79 | +- [PyHEP 2025 Users Workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1566263/): hybrid event at CERN on Oct. 27 - 30. Call for abstracts is open up to Oct. 13 23:59. |
| 80 | + - Over 150 people registered |
| 81 | + - 4 half days |
| 82 | + - Over 20 abstracts: ML, AD, analysis tools, etc. |
| 83 | + - Wednesday at 16:30 - a tutorial by Ashwin Srinath from Nvidia "Pythonic GPU Parallelism for HEP with cuda-cccl" |
| 84 | + - Possibly an awkward package hackathon on Thursday (morning session) |
| 85 | + |
| 86 | +### JuliaHEP |
| 87 | + |
| 88 | +- We will start soon organising the JuliaHEP 2026 Workshop! It will probably be in Germany, so that it takes advantage of JuliaCon 2026 in Mainz. |
| 89 | + |
| 90 | + |
| 91 | +## AOB |
| 92 | + |
| 93 | +### Physical Constants / HEPdata Library |
| 94 | + |
| 95 | +Reminder: we are proposing a C++ header-only library that defines physical constants and some salient HEPdata in a lightweight, easy-to-use manner. Also taking into account versioning. |
| 96 | + |
| 97 | +John Chapman and Graeme Stewart picked this up again last week. We have asked for *mp-units* to be added to the LCG builds. Then we would like to add a simple header with common HEP constants and gradually migrate towards an integrated solution with mp-units. |
| 98 | + |
| 99 | +Finally, we would like to automate the generation of constant files directly from PDG and CODATA (this bit can be language neutral). |
| 100 | + |
| 101 | +*Additional help/contributions welcome!* |
| 102 | + |
| 103 | +### Next Meeting |
| 104 | + |
| 105 | +The next coordination meeting will be October 23rd, <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1477089/>. |
| 106 | + |
| 107 | +### Chair This Meeting 👇 |
| 108 | + |
| 109 | +Please [sign up](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1Z4payCpieOLiVFcC6y9j-KCj71u6xX232LHUgIHfI/edit) for chairing a future coordination meeting. (There is even a [HOWTO guide](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/organization/running-meetings.html)). |
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